Frank

The administrator of Overly Positive, Frank is perpetually sunny and happy about the state of geek media today. On top of this, to the chagrin of many, he’s a morning person. Optimism is the permanent word of the day as far as Frank is concerned, and if you’re looking for a boost, he’s the guy to talk to.

27 responses to “Overly Positive Thoughts – Rock Band Regalia”

  1. Helvetica

    This was hysterical. Thankfully the people living above me have NOT bought it yet, so I don’t have to listen to them blaring it at 1am when I’m trying to do work. In the mean time, I’ll just blast my Beatles albums and *gasp* know the songs and not have to play a craptastic video game to enlighten me. Screw Rock Band.

  2. Rer

    I wasn’t a big fan of Rock Band originally, but I will be, without a doubt, buying this game.

    Sure, it isn’t as good as the real Beatles.
    Sure, it doesn’t go into too much depth on the historical impact the band had on society.
    Sure, it gives people a legitimate reason to show off their horrendous singing.

    BUT

    It also gives a new generation an immersive experience with the Beatles. I think of the game as a gateway towards another Beatles surge. After all, their music is timeless.

  3. Slurms

    Wow, I’m actually astonished by the hate.

    While I’m in full agreement that buying the albums (I’m going Stereo personally) is the better choice. Having a deep appreciation for music has nothing to do with liking or disliking Rock Band. In fact, the game opens kids eyes to music they may never experience otherwise. Someone who picks up Rock Band is simply looking for a different way to experience that music. It’s a potential gateway for many to gain a deeper love of music which may in turn foster a desire to play an actual instrument.

    Whenever I see my three year old daughter intently watching and dancing as daddy plays Rock Band, I’m happy because I know I’m already introducing her to music.

    If it’s not your cup of tea, that’s fine. But don’t write it off as worthless.

    1. Helvetica

      I don’t know what kids you know that have their eyes opened up by playing Rock Band. How is that going to open anyone’s eyes? The only appreciation you can get from it is “Hey, I can beat this one song on extra hard mode.” I don’t know people who play Rock Band and go, “That was an awesome song. Let me look it up and find out more about the band.” It’s like how everyone I know, it feels like, knows that one Blue Oyster Cult song strictly because of the SNL skit, and praise how much of an awesome song it is. Do they know ANY other songs by them? Hell no. And I can’t tell you how many people I know have watched the commercial for The Beatles: Rock Band and went, “What song is that?” Not even in an interested tone. More in a confused, wtf tone.

      I’m probably rambling at this point and probably not going to change your mind just as no one can change my mind about Rock Band. I personally think it’s a horrible, lazy idea. I don’t know think people will be able to experience the Beatles or any artist through Rock Band the same way I and probably many others have. And what upsets me the most is that the only “fun” way people seem to be introduced to these amazing, fabulous artists today is through a stupid video game that goes against how an actual guitar works.

      Sorry for the rant.

      1. Slurms

        Except in 2008, sales of ACTUAL guitars increased after two stagnant years because of Guitar Hero 3.

        Interesting read:

        http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/gadgets_and_gaming/article5266959.ece

        Sure, many of those kids will quit playing, but I bet you they quit with a greater appreciation for what it takes to play, and of music/musicians in general.

        1. Helvetica

          Just because the sales increased doesn’t mean the appreciation increased. I find appreciation for music and simply going “damn, that’s hard. Someone needs skill to do that” to not be in the same boat. There’s a lot more to appreciating music than simply playing it.

          1. Slurms

            no doubt, but your assuming that NO ONE that played rock band gained a greater appreciation, and that’s BS. It’s hard to argue that within the 2.5 million people that bought instruments as a result of a game, not a one went on to have greater music appreciation.

            1. Helvetica

              It’s extremely difficult to appreciate music and the musician(s) without knowing about history. Last time I checked, Rock Band doesn’t come with a thorough book documenting the history of rock/jazz/etc, let alone The Beatles. And no, loading screens in game and so on do not count. The game is meant as a source of entertainment, not enlightenment. It’s like people thinking they’re history buffs after playing ever WW related FPS game. Maybe I’m just a bit of a music elitist, seeing that appreciation to me does not equal simply liking a song because it’s bad ass or something. I just have a LOT of trouble understanding how someone can gain an ounce of musical appreciation from mashing buttons and staring at colors flying by on a guitar neck.

              1. Slurms

                Your not seeing my point so let me rephrase; Playing Rock Band will not grant someone music appreciation. But playing it MAY point someone down the road toward music appreciation.

                1. Helvetica

                  And what I’m saying is that the chances of that are wicked low. Then again, I have yet to meet someone who has done this.

      2. Rer

        I don’t wanna start an argument or anything but:

        “That was an awesome song. Let me look it up and find out more about the band.”

        I did this for almost every band I heard throughout the Guitar Hero series. Those games really helped me segway into a bunch of great music that I would never have experienced otherwise. Perhaps the people you know just don’t appreciate music, because I know my friends *do* look up music after having played these games.

        1. Helvetica

          I really hope your research went beyond a simple Wiki search. Though honestly, you’re the only person I know who has done this.

          1. Grok

            I’m not sure why it’s hard to believe that hearing a song in a video game might turn someone into a fan of the band. How is it any different than hearing it on the radio? In fact I could argue that hearing it on the radio is actually less effective as you don’t need to focus on the song, you can simply allow it to be background music to another activity you find more engaging. In Rock Band you need to focus on the music and really listen to it in a way you might not otherwise which may lead to a greater appreciation of the music.

            1. Rer

              Replied for Truth. Assuming that everyone who plays Rock Band doesn’t “get it” or “appreciate the history behind it” is not only ignorant but frankly, insulting.

              It introduces a new generation to music. I’m sorry that it doesn’t take us to pot filled concerts, and we don’t fully understand the multiple revolutions and campaigns behind them, but we nonetheless do appreciate the music. To me, in the end that’s what matters.

              1. Helvetica

                Pot filled concerts? Wow, and you said I was insulting. As someone who originally wanted to go into music before going into art, it ticks me off to no end when people play these games and think they know so much about music. Anyone can like a song, that’s fine, but as I’ve said over and over again, and apparently it’s not hitting home but whatever, there’s way more to appreciating music than just liking it. If people at the very least stopped throwing that word around thinking it’s the same as simply liking something, then I would be a lot more mellow about this.

                1. Slurms

                  You’re insulted about pot filled concerts?

                  “If people at the very least stopped throwing that word around thinking it’s the same as simply liking something,”

                  I can’t disagree with this. Simply put, you can be appreciative of someones music and it’s impact, and still not like it. I have great appreciation for what Black Sabbath has done for music, if it wasn’t for them I probably wouldn’t have my favorite band. But I can’t stand Ozzy’s voice.

  4. pancakez

    Yeah… for every person who gains some ‘appreciation’ for old music you’ve got a couple hundred people who act just the way it’s advertised… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTbAE8IXJKk

    They’re trying to cash in on older audiences, not introduce young people to classic music. Oh wait I need to think positive, yeah? Oh, oh! Now frat parties will have a good soundtrack to butcher at their drunken parties!

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